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Samurai Faq
« on: January 07, 2008, 05:28:15 PM »
This section is for all the Samurai information. I will put all the info from the old Godzuki.us Faq page in here...feel free to add your own!
If you have questions, please post them in the general tech section, and we will keep this on topic.
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Re: Samurai Faq
« Reply #1 on: January 07, 2008, 05:33:24 PM »
Shocks, and mounts

AutoZone
Front Red Ryder shocks - 81440*
Rear Red Ryder shocks - 81538*

Ford truck shock towers E5TZ18183A*

I've got some Gabriel Gas Ryder LT VST's and they are LONG!*
Get them at AUTO ZONE Part number Gabriel/springfi G63438
They are 19.99 each and measure out at 31" extended and 17.5" compressed!
Not too bad.

Brake lines

NAPA
Front extended brake hoses - 38541
Rear extended brake hoses - 38688

NAPA numbers... I think this is for the front... # 38673
And this is for the rear... # 38688
Price here in town for them was $29.99 (each) for the front a
nd $19.49 (each) for the rears

Here's the list of part numbers I have for longer brake lines.
Also, Geo Metro lines are supposed to do the trick! :
Part Maker part #
Front Longer Brake Lines napa 38541
Front Longer Brake Lines raybestos bh38541
Rear Longer brake lines napa 38688
Rear Longer brake lines Wagner f 120870
Rear Longer brake lines bendix 78351
Rear Longer brake lines raybestos bh38688

Brake lines?
Sami Front -->mid 90's Tracker front RIGHT(21 1/2")pn# ?, or an 83 honda Accord FRONT either side(20")napa# 38673
Sami Rear --> front brake hose for a 90-96 Nissan 300ZX(23 3/8")NAPA part #38688
 

Bearings, and seals


Bearings and seals for diff.
2 side bearings # BR17887
1 inside pinion # BR30307
1 outside pinion # BR30306
1 pinion seal # 350572

The bearings are SKF and the seal is Federal Mogul


86-88 Bearing, front wheel Suzuki 09265-41001 OEM P/N
86-88 Bearing race, front Timkin LM300811
86-88 Bearing, front wheel Koyo Hi-Cap (Japan) 57414 Original from Suzuki.
86-88 Bearing, front wheel Automotive Bearings International (Timken) LM300849
Marked with two part numbers, for bearing and race.
Both inner and outer front wheel bearings are the same.

86-88 Bearing, rear outer axle wheel Koyo (Japan) DG3572DWRKB Original from Suzuki:
note this is the bearing only and does not include the retainer ring.
86-88 Bearing, rear outer axle wheel Federal Mogul RW128R Includes the retainer ring.
Federal Mogul is available from Industrial Bearing.
Rears are: SKF brand # 6207 2RSJEM, $27.71 at Kaman Bearing in Nampa
Fafner brand are the same but only $20.70 ea

pinion bearing part #'s and prices

Napa

OUTER
Powerglide Bearings Pinion Center Bearing - Rear Axle
Usually ships in 24 hours. PGBPBR30306 30306 $ 14.69

INNER
NAPA Bearings Pinion Bearing - Rear Axle
Usually ships in 24 hours. BRGBR30307 30307 $ 44.99

Crush Sleeve - Not Available
*********************

Advance Auto

BCA Bearings 30306
Rear; Outer; 8 Bolt
1 Year Limited Warranty Ships in 1 day
Weight: 2 lbs. $21.39

BCA Bearings 30307
Rear; Inner; 8 Bolt
1 Year Replacement Warranty Ships in 1 day
Weight: 2.2 lbs. $28.79

Crush Sleeve - Not Available
 

Distributor O-Ring*

OK here's the specs on O-ring get one at any parts store
O ring number is 129
width 3/32
Inner. diameter 2-3/16
Outer diameter 2-3/8
the width is just wee bit bigger than stock to make a better seal
 

Other parts

T case shifter sheet
The Suzuki part number is 29541-80051.*
I bought two (one for a spare) in April 2001 at my
local Zuk dealer for $8.46 each plus tax.


Here is what is on the box of Wheel stud's I got from NAPA. (stock size)
Balkamp. # 641-2187
Size M12 DIA X 37.5 MM
 




Other info

-Gearing Thoughts/Concepts..
Q. Which is better axle gearing or a t-case kit ?
A. While doing transfer case gears is probably the biggest bank for buck and a quick-fix, it is definitely a lousy way to try and create a reliable, trouble-free drivetrain. Think about this for a minute... You put on larger tires. Now your pinion becomes TWICE as hard to turn. This puts TWICE as much stress on the u-joints, the transfer case mounts, the transfer case itself, and the brackets on the side of the frame that holds the transfer case in place. "GEE I wonder why I need these big honkin' driveshafts now"...or "why do my bolts pull out of the transfer case on the long arm side"... or the mounting boss breaks off of the transfer case....or the short arm side bracket starts tearing off of the frame rail. "Gosh - maybe it is because I gave my transfer case almost 3 times as much power by putting in 6:1's and now it wants to do flip flops in its mounts because I must have FORGOT to change the ring and pinions relative to my tire size - which would have made the driveshaft easy to turn again and takes all of the strain off of these parts - like it was made from the factory when the little tires were on it." It is a MISTAKE to do all of your gear reduction at one point. Especially that far up the mechanical chain. Do yourself a favor...reduce the ratio at the ring and pinions relative to the size tire you want to run, then select the transfer case gears that will best meet your 4-wheeling needs. By going this route, you will have a well thought out and trouble-free drivetrain working well within the parameters of strain that the parts can and will reliably handle. -Brent (Trail Tough Products)


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Suzuki Driveshafts



All figures include both u-joints and flanges, flange mounting surface to flange mounting surface unless stated otherwise.

Fully collapsed compressed: 27.25"

Fully extended, with the slip yoke and drive shaft physically touching but NO spline engagement: 31.25"

1" of splined engagement: 30"
2" of splined engagement: 29"
3" of splined engagement: 28"
3.75" of splined engagement is maximum engagement (now back at full compression)

Note:
The slip yoke has aproximately .25" inside it's end that has a non splined section. (the outside of this area is the groove where the stock rubber dust boot attaches)

The drive shaft splined section itself, has a smooth shoulder at it's base of about .50", where it meets the face of the tube. (so total splined section is 3.75" , total length of the "stub" inc. shoulder and splines is aprox. 4.25")

Drive shaft without slip yoke, but with flange and u-joint, from spline face to flange mounting surface: 24"

Drive shaft alone with no flange or u-joint, splined face to yoke ends: 23.25"

Slip yoke alone without flange or u-joint, from dust boot end face to yoke ends : 6.25"

Yoke ears

Outside width : 2.75"
Inside width : 1 & 5/8th's
Thickness : .50"
Length : 2"

Flange mounting surface thickness: 5/16th's

Flange ("large" style, late model Samurai) mounting holes center to center : 60mm x 60mm Diagonally: 85mm

Tube diameter: 2"

 

 

The facts about swapping Kick gears into a Sammy axle*

Generally:   Kick gear is
Auto 4wd 4.62:1
Manual 5.13:1.
All spot models are 5.13:1
4dr. auto's With OD come with 5.13's

To do both Sammy Front & Rear you will need two Track / Kick fronts + the install kits (about $75 each and include ring gear spacer, center pin can, crush sleeve, New pinion seal, New nut, New washer).
*** Also covers setting them up on the CHEAP   for those with NO extra Cash***
I have set 2 of them up successfully for FREE with out the install kit but I wouldn't recommend it.

Yes Tracker Kick front 3rd's will drop right in a Sammy front housing BUT they will be weak unless you use the Sammy 4-pin carrier.

Installing Track /Kick front in a Sammy Front Axle (using the Aluminum Tracker carrier):

Harvest ring gear and carrier from donor Track/kick
front carrier.
Harvest ring  gear and carrier from Samurai front carrier.
Clean parts very good with solvent...  Dry and check parts over for wear or damage.

Install Sammy 4pin carrier into Tracker 3rd.
**** Must use the Can or tack weld the 4-pins as the Kick ring gear will not hold them securely on the Sammy 4-pin carrier.
**** Must use the Ring gear spacer on the Sammy carrier OR you will be required max the carrier ring gear back lash adjustment to one side creating unequal axle spline engagement right to left (In the side gear).   
**** Kick and tracker thirds can be set up this way on the cheap (free).  And Justin my Guinea pig hasn't broken them yet.   


Installing the Tracker / Kick ring & pinion in the Sammy steel carriers: From Michael Whitfield

Compare Pinion gear heights (Inner pinion bearing race to end of pinion gear) and Crush sleeve heights.
Ideally you are trying to use this measurement later to assist you in setting the proper pinion depth (shimming the pinion).   Usually this Pinion depth measurement is scribed on the back of the pinion gear and is a measurement from the carrier housing face to the finished gear end of the pinion shaft.  You will adjust this measurement by installing or removing shims between the Inner pinion bearing and the carrier housing.  Install your pinion shaft, shims, (always try stock Sammy ones first), and the inner and outer bearing (no crush sleeve) along with the old pinion washer & nut.  Just tighten snug as to take pinion depth measurements.  Once the measurements are correct you can begin to set up / test fit the carrier.
The Track/kick ring gear is larger then the Sammy ring gear and there for requires a method to hold the 4 cross pins that the spider gear run on (4-pin) in their place in the carrier.  I believe most venders are offering thin steel "can" that is tack welded into place.   I have in the past tack welded the cross pins, thus avoiding purchasing the can.  My tack weld method is cheap and therefore debatable. I have yet to have one fail but the risk is yours if you try it. Their is a possibility of the tack weld failing and the pin coming loose, thus the can is cheap insurance.  Next install the ring gear spacer onto the carrier along with the ring gear (make sure the bolt holes for the ring gear and threads in the carrier) are absolutely clean).  The spacer is necessary due to the smaller pinion gear and the ring gear's need to be located closer toward the center of the carrier.  Install the ring gear bolts with red loctite, and thread them all hand tight, next tighten them (with a torque wrench) in a crisscross pattern in 2 or 3 steps to their final torque.  It is very important that the ring gear is pulled down evenly and the the bolt load is equally placed.  Next Oil/ grease the Carrier bearing's outer races (to help it slide while adjusting back lash) and  place (drop) the carrier into the housing gently meshing the ring & pinion gears.  Install your carrier bearing caps about hand tight.  You might go an additional 1/2 turn but you will still need to have them loose enough to move the carrier assembly side to side so that you can properly adjust the ring gear back lash (Free play).  Now carefully thread in your carrier adjusting rings (round threaded pieces with all the little holes in them).  Screw these until they are snug against the carrier bearings, while checking the back lash (the free play between the ring and pinion).  You should maintain back lash while snugging the adjuster rings against the carrier bearing outer races.  Now measure your back lash.  Use your carrier adjustment rings to move the carrier & ring gear assembly right or left for more or less tooth engagement.  More tooth engagement  (Bringing the ring gear closer give less back lash).  Once your back lash measurement is correctly set, you can begin to look at your gear tooth contact pattern.   Here is where you can use the Tooth guide at Randy's ring and pinion to assist you in visually inspecting the Gear tooth contact pattern to determine necessary changes to the pinion depth.  Once you achieve the correct pattern, (Correct pinion depth & back lash) you can remove the pinion for the last time.  Here once you are sure you have the pinion shimmed correctly you can install you new bearings crush sleeve, seal, washer, (Loctite) and nut... Now tighten the pinion nut to set the pinion torque.  The last rear I set up (Wife?s ZJ) required a free rotating torque (force) of 12 inch pounds.  This required me to tighten the pinion and crush sleeve until it took 12 inch pounds to turn the pinion nut with no ring gear.  Once this is accomplished you can drop in the carrier/ ring gear assy.  Take care to again accurately set the ring gear back lash.  Once this is complete you can torque the carrier bearing caps.  Again torque these bolts in steps leading to their final torque value (here loctite is debatable).  Once complete re-check you gear tooth contact pattern and your ring gear back lash.  Once these are verified correct you can install the carrier into the axle.

Rear Axle

  Kick Tracker Front gears in a Sammy Rear axle set up follows the same assembly procedures as the front but uses the Samurai Rear axle side gear (Installs with the Sammy rear 4-pin carrier)
Sammy side gears (Front and rear) should be checked and or replaced.  I see frequent failure in Side gears & related parts from bent axle housings.  Most often signs of a bent using are failure of splines on the inside of the side gear (Ones that engage the axle shaft), and sharp side gear teeth.

           Feel free to correct / edit / debate

All above information came off of the top of my head while at work....

Specs needed:

Ring gear bolt torque ?
Carrier bearing cap Torque ?
Pinion back lash ?
Average Pinion depth measurement?         
Pinion bearing Preload  (10 inch lbs if I remember correctly)

 

What to look for...

I'll try to include Canada/US specific differences because these seem to creep in and confuse a lot of people you will talk to on the web.

Some of this might be slightly incorrect (from memory, dates in particular). If anyone knows better feel free to jump in.

* 1982. SJ-410 arrives in Canada. Basically the Samurai style vehicle that we have the love/hate relationship with. These beasties have the narrow track frame (front springs inset under frame rails in front), a 1.0 liter 4 cylinder engine (aluminum head, iron block. Want one? No seriously...), 4 speed manual trans with first gear ratio of about 3.15:1, 4th is 1:1. T-case is similar is design to a Samurai case BUT has a different casing, more squared off, no 4x4 switch, small flanges. Body styles are hard top (i.e. V), Pickup (K), LWB and normal soft top. Axles (4.10:1) are narrow to match the frame, differentials are same as LJ-80. Quick ratio upgrade is to get 4.56:1 ratio diffs from an LJ and plug them in. No parts interchange between these axles and the Samurai. T-case ratios are 1.58:1 in high, 2.56:1 (or so, bad memory, sit! stay!) in low.

* 1982/3. Same as above, newer style t-case housing starts to appear - very similar to Sam case with exception of 4x4 switch. Same ratios.

* 1984. Same as above except the t-case uses the same types of gear clusters as a Samurai case but with lower ratios (1.58, 2.5x). These gears are the ones used to make a "rocklobster" t-case (combination of these gears and Samurai gears to make a 1.58 high, 4.16 low t-case - web search for instructions). This may be the first "sanctioned" appearance of the SJ-410 in the US. Not 100% on that though.

* 1985. SJ-413 is introduced in Canada. Differences from a SJ-410: Samurai all aluminum 1300cc engine with Aisin carb and 5 speed transmission (3.652:1 first). Axles are changed to Samurai style diffs but with SJ-410 front brakes and 3.90:1 axle ratios. These diffs are interchangeable between Samurai and SJ-413). New Samurai style dash with no central console (the original style). T-case ratios change to Samurai ratios (1.409:1, 2.2x:1). Last year of pickup in Canada. US still receives some SJ-410s, but not the SJ-413.

* 1986. First year of what we commonly call a Samurai in US and Canada. Canadian spec kept the Aisin carb (lenient emmisions reqs) while the the US got this fooked up Hitachi carbu-jector thing. Front spring spacing moved outboard of the frame approximately 2-1/8" per side, axles grew also to widen the track. US receives soft top and hard top but not the pick-up or LWB versions.

* 1987-1988. Last year of LWB in Canada.

* 1988.5. First restyle of Samurai in North American market. New dash with a more car like center to house radio, heater controls, little cubbies, etc. Spring rates change (soften?). Canada gets the Hitachi carbujector.

* 1990. EFI on the 1300cc engine starts to appear (late 1990 I think).

* 1991. Last year for hard top, grille is restyled to two long horizontal slots.

* 1992. Last year of Samurai in Canada.

* 1993. Samurai is sold in US only without rear bench - to get around tightening security regs.

* 1995. Last year of Samurai in US.

There's probably more nitty gritty details I'm forgetting but that is pretty much it in NA.

To build a Sam, I'll recommend based upon keeping a real body on the machine, street legal...The tube frame guys don't care about any of this anyway.

Pick whatever year has the features you want (grille, EFI, dash). From 1986 on they are all pretty much the same machine, it's just cosmetic preferences.

What to look for: RUST! Around the fender openings, the e-brake handle, rear door behind the fender opening, front floor wells. RUST is the number one killer of Samurais. Engine condition may or may not be important if you plan to upgrade to a Suzuki "big block" (1600cc) right away (recommended for the EFI and extra torque). Otherwise look for something that is complete and in good shape. You may not care much about the condition of the seats, you'll probably replace. The stockers are chintzy cheap things that don't seem to last and need to be replaced.

The basic boiler plate build up is SPOA, t-case gears (1.58, 4.1), real bumpers and lockers front and rear, 31" tires, cross-over steering. This will go pretty much anywhere you want for the type of wheeling you have in mind - it'll spank lots of bigger machines too.

"Foo foo" stuff you may want to add: power steering (TracKick or Toy donor), a 1600cc engine (either 8V or 16V - who ever has enough power?). I don't see the 1300cc EFI as being a big draw. Some like it; I hear it doesn't respond well to cam or intake/exhaust changes.

My opinion is going much larger than a 33"-34" tire on a Sam that is going to be street driven regularly is more trouble than it is worth. Breakage and lack of power starts to become an issue. Then you start getting into talking about Toy or Dana axles, V-6 engine swaps, etc., etc. These things really change the character of a Samurai. It may or may not be what you want at the end - you won't know till you drive it.

 
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Re: Samurai Faq
« Reply #2 on: January 07, 2008, 05:49:20 PM »
Lincoln (fozzy) locker How to: http://www.island4x4.com/4x4tech/axle/weldeddiff1/
Lincoln (fozzy) locker How to: starring Ack, me, and Adam on Ack's Faq: http://www.acksfaq.com/fozzylocker.php
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Re: Samurai Faq
« Reply #3 on: January 07, 2008, 05:50:40 PM »
Sidekick gears information

 


Disclaimer
 

The information presented here is information I have gathered from people around the world, from the Suzuki mailing list, from scrap yards around my area and from the many Suzuki people I have talked over the years. The information is true and exact to the best of my knowledge but as with any information, some of it might be inexact or plain wrong. Don't take any of it for cash, but consider it one of the most informative pages on the Internet on this subject.

General information

When it comes to gears, the Sidekick is the same as all his brother models:

- Geo Tracker
- Chevrolet Tracker
- Pontiac Sunrunner
- Asuna Sunrunner
- Long wheel base models of all the above models

As a general rule, the following ratios are what is usually found in 1989-1998 models:

Automatic transmission : 4.625
Manual transmission : 5.125

 

Some exceptions have been found over the years. Although the information I have gathered is pretty foggy, it seems that the 1989 model comes up often when weird and rare ratios are discussed. I have yet to hear about any other ratio than 5.12 and 4.625 in models after 1989.

Other rare ratios :

Automatic transmission : 4.10 and 4.30
Manual transmission : 5.38 and 5.83 (made by Calmini but worth talking about)

Sidekick owners:

 

Manual tranny users definitely have a huge problem when it comes to gearing down. No transfer-case kits available and they already have 5.12 from the factory! 5.38s are pretty much the same as 5.12 so most people wouldn't even feel the difference (other than monetary!). The 5.83 do make a difference, but it is no where near what would make an extreme rockcrawler happy. They're only available new (unless you're extremely lucky) so they cost a bunch.

Automatic tranny owners on the other hand are pretty lucky. I don't know what makes it so, but it seems 4.625 is more than enough for the auto model to compete with the manual model. The automatic owners can thus install 5.12, 5.38 or 5.83 and get a very noticeable difference.

Where does it lead to? Well I think the people that are running the manual tranny and want to gear down should think about installing an automatic tranny in. Ok yeah most people prefer manual, but automatic has it's merits when it comes to rockcrawling and other slow tasks.

Samurai owners:

 

The front Sidekick differential is very similar to the Samurai differential. So much that all of the components are very alike and are of almost the same size and all. The Samurai has 3.73 diff gears from the factory for most years but was also available with 3.90 gears in it's first year (1985) in Canada. Just for the record, the rear differential of the Sidekick will NOT fit the Samurai axle assembly.

The best and safest way to install Sidekick gears in a Samurai is to use only the ring and the pinion out of the Sidekick and install them in the Samurai chunk. There are alternatives (discussed at the end of this page) but they should be used with caution because the Sidekick front differential is not as strong as the Samurai differential, so the whole assembly is significantly weaker. Furthermore, the modifications needed to install the Sidekick chunks in the Samurai are more likely to cause problems than the standard installation.

Swapping the ring and pinion is pretty straight forward. You will need to adjust pretty much everything before reinstalling the differential in your Samurai. If you don't have a strong background in this, I advise you do the R&P swap yourself and bring the assembled chunk to a differential shop to have it adjusted properly.

The only problem in this approach is the fact that the Sidekick ring gear has a larger inner diameter than the Samurai ring gear. In the stock configuration, the Samurai cross pins are held in by the ring gear but once the Sidekick ring gear gets in, the cross pins are free to get out, fall, and likely to destroy something.

To address this problem, most (all?) of the Suzuki aftermarket parts dealers have a kit. Many ways can be used to do this.. A sleeve can be slipped over the carrier and secured with a few tack welds. A big rubber band can be used but this technique has been abandoned by the one dealer I heard was using it (Hawk Strictly Suzuki). Some people have had good experience with custom homemade sleeves (make of Coffee cans for example)... Some people even weld the cross pins in place but I would advise not to use this technique. For reference, Petroworks has a sleeve kit for this installation and it is priced at about 25$ US.

Other techniques:

Samurai front axle -> small axleshafts
Samurai rear axle -> big axleshafts
Sidekick front axle (up to 1995) -> small axleshafts
Sidekick front axle (1996 and up) -> big axleshafts

The Samurai and Sidekick axleshafts have the same spline count and are thus compatible with it's counter part.

This means that:

- A 1995 or older differential can literally be bolted up front and will work
- A 1996 or newer differential can literally be bolted up front and will work

 

NOTE OF CAUTION: As mentioned earlier, the Sidekick differential is weaker than the Samurai differential. First it is designed to be used up front, thus the stress considerations are much less than a rear differential (probably why Suzuki went for a bigger differential in the rear to start with). Furthermore, the Sidekick differential is in an aluminum housing which is much more prone to breakage/twisting than the Samurai model.

Another bad thing about this technique is the fact that a Samurai locker cannot be installed in the Sidekick carriers because of the differences. To install a locker in a Sidekick differential, one would have to get a Sidekick locker for the front (not even sure that exists) and that would add some additional stress to an already too weak differentials. Add some transfer case gears and a bigger engine to the soup and you're sure to destroy something.

Taking it a little bit further, if you get a differential that doesn't have the proper side gears, you can swap them for the bigger/smaller model. Sidekick ones are interchangeable but you're not likely to find any spare ones. The usual way is to use the Samurai side gears in the Sidekick differential. Remember when I said the diffs where almost the same? Well the Sidekick side gears and the Samurai side gears are slightly different.

The following information is from Sky (AKA Schuyler Brown):

 

To install the Samurai side gears in the Sidekick differential, you must change side and spider gears, use the spider gear thrust washers out of whatever case looks best (they are the same). The sidekick case seems to be slightly wider, or the gears are slightly bigger, so when you put in the Samurai side gears you will need to check side gear play. Mine came with 43 thousandth shims on both diffs and I needed about 68 thousands of shim to make stuff correct, this will cure the clunk that would happen in the rear. You will need to have the gears reset. If you don't shim the side gears, you will destroy them and your gears.

How should I expect to pay for a differential?
 

Suzuki wants 500$ CND for a brand new set of ring and pinion. That's a little over 300$ US. The Suzuki aftermarket parts dealers are selling brand new modified ring and pinion sets for about 315$ US (each). They are hard to get from scrap yards because most of them want to sell the whole assembly. Running price for a whole front assembly is about 225-275$ US. One good thing though is that since they come from front differentials, most of them have never seen any abuse (or use in some cases). All the ones I've seen up to date were in excellent shape, whatever the mileage of the donor vehicle.

If you're lucky, you'll be able to find a place that will sell you only the differential. Those can be anywhere from 100$ US to 300$ US a set depending on how lucky you get. Let me just tell you that most of them run closer to the 300$ quote... For myself, I happen to have two excellent sources. The price is 350$ US (shipping included) for two complete Sidekick chunks (housing, carrier, R&P, and all associated bearings & gears). 5.12 is easy to get, 4.625 rather rare, 4.30 about as rare and 4.10 almost impossible to find.

 
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Re: Samurai Faq
« Reply #4 on: January 07, 2008, 05:57:24 PM »
Info from Izook www.izook.com

1. Place a 2wd Tracker/Sidekick transmission w/1600 in your Samurai. Dave La Tourette 
I wanted to swap a Sidekick 1600cc engine into my 1987 Sammy for the extra power, but didn't want to use a commercial weld-on or bolt on kit. I decided to use the Sidekick 2WD transmission. This transmission can accept the 215mm Sidekick flywheel and clutch-- a much stronger setup than the Sammy 190mm clutch. Also the Sidekick transmission is stronger, with bigger gears and shafts. The only possible drawback I've come up with is that it uses a lower fifth rear ratio than the pre-88.5 Sammy. This would only be of concern to those whose rigs are geared really low, and need the tall fifth for the highway. 

Even though my Sammy is SPOA, I used the Sammy oil pan and modified it instead of using the Sidekick pan as some others do. I figured if I hit a big enough bump, such as a water bar, I could still have contact between the front axle and oil pan (not good). 

The modifications to the pan are quite easy. First you need to break all the spot welds that hold the baffles in place and remove them. You can just use a beater screwdriver and a hammer for this, they (the spot-welds) break off quite easily. Make sure you take out the big baffle, and the little one underneath it. Next you need to use a torch (even a propane type will suffice) and heat up and hammer (lightly) flat the two indented areas at the rear of the pan over the rearmost two bolt holes. These get in the way of the 1600's rear main cap and stud girdle. You can bend a little, then do a test fit. Repeat until you get it right. As for the oil pickup tube, you'll need to use pieces of both the 1300 and the 1600 tubes. Use the oil pump end of the 1600 tube and cut it off a little past where the support bracket is, then cut the strainer end off the 1300 tube and slide it in the cut off end of the 1600 tube. Position it where it needs to be by installing the pan and looking through the drain plug hole, then weld it up. Alternatively, Hawk Suzuki (1-888-SAMURAI) sells the tube already made up for $35. 

Next I had to modify (read bend and cut) the transmission tunnel for the Sidekick transmission to fit. Here a 2" or so body lift would have been really nice, but I'm not a body lift kinda guy. I had to cut a section from the bottom of the stock shifter hole down to about .5" forward of the transfer case boot front edge. The cut out section was the same width as the existing shifter hole. Also I needed to cut a round section out at the rear of this cut out and on the driver's side to make room for the 'Frankenstein' bolt on the Sidekick transmission. Then I had to bend (BF hammer or scissors jack) the tunnel on the driver's side a little to make room for the wider Sidekick transmission. Note that the hole and the widening of the tunnel would be greatly reduced if a body lift was done. Also It would be easier to refit the stock shifter boot. Even a 1" lift would help. As for a shifter boot, I put the stock one on backwards, and it works fairly well. Since I have no body lift, I also shortened (by about 4") and straightened the shifter a little. 

For engine mount brackets, I used the Sammy left-side mount bracket with Sammy rubber mount. However  the Sammy right-side mount bracket interferes with the clutch cable bracket, so I used a Sidekick right side bracket -- allowing the Sammy clutch bracket to be used. I used the Sammy rubber mount for the right side too. Next I cut the Sammy right side motor mount frame bracket from the frame, as it sits too far forward for the 1600 engine. 

I put the engine/transmission assembly into place, with the Sidekick transmission mount sitting on the Sammy crossmember, and installed the bolts for the left engine mount. I made sure the transmission mount was centered on the crossmember, and Vise-Gripped it in place. After making sure the engine was sitting at the correct angle, I bolted the previously cut off right side frame bracket to the mount. This jigged the bracket in the correct place. Then I welded the frame bracket on in its new position, approximately 1" rearward of its original position. I suppose one could also use the Calmini right side engine bracket if they didn't want to cut and weld, but I'm not sure it is sold separately. 

Now for the transmission mount! Luckily the Sammy crossmember is the right height, and has enough room to drill holes for the Sidekick mount. The Sammy crossmember has a tab that sticks forward from the crossmember. It has two holes drilled in it for the Sammy transmission mount, and a big hole centered in between them. The first new hole needs to be drilled between the front edge of the tab, and the front edge of the big hole. This needs to be a 1/2" hole. Rearward of this tab, there is another big hole through the crossmember's lower panel (the crossmember is double-wall with a space in between). The new rear hole (also 1/2") for the Sidekick transmission needs to be drilled in the center of this big hole, through the top panel. You may need to elongate this hole (fore and aft) to make up for manufacturing differences in the motor mount etc. 

Almost done! The driveshaft is all that's left! This may be the toughest part for those without lots of fabricating tools and experience. Luckily you can buy one from Hawk Suzuki for about $100. For those who want to make their own, follow along! 

Cut your Sammy driveshaft tube off the front driveshaft yoke without cutting through the yoke. I used a cut off saw, and cut right through the weld where the yoke was joined to the tube. Cut about 1/8" down all the way around, then tap the yoke off the tube. Next, cut the tube off about 1" from the weld on the other yoke. Try to get a very straight cut. You should now have the rear yoke with about 1/2" of tube sticking out past the end of the yoke center (inside the tube). Now deburr the edge of the tube, and very carefully line up the previously cut off front yoke and press or tap it into the end of the tube 'till it's all the way in. The yokes should be lined up the same way, and the distanced from the 'U' joint holes should be the same on each side. When it's all ready, get out the electric glue gun (MIG welder)! Now install the 'U' joints and the mounting flange from the Sammy, and the output flange from the Sidekick transmission -- it fits on the Sammy 'U' joint. You will need to unbolt the transfer case mounts and  move the case back to get enough room to install the newly shortened driveshaft. 

I know that some of this is less than clear without pictures. I'll try to get some later. If anyone needs additional explanation on any part of this swap, email me at tourette@accessone.com and I'll try and help out. 

2. S.P.O.A (spring over axle) suspension lift. Scott Gomez 
Essentially the entire suspension and both axles need to be removed. The only thing that can stay attached is each of the springs (by one end, anyway). The vehicle will need to be raised to a significant height to clear the various components to be removed and supported by the frame. This will be a much easier job to perform if you get a friend to help as there are portions of the process that will be much easier with two people (and perhaps should be done with two people) like wrestling the axles out and onto a suitable work surface. 

For safety:Disconnect the battery negative cable Also, raise and properly support the vehicle. You'll also need to: Release the emergency brake. Set the transmission and transfer case to neutral. 

How you go about doing this conversion will depend on whether or not you have access to a hydraulic lift, and whether or not you'll be doing the welding where you are doing the rest of the work. Obviously, if you have to take the axles out somewhere to be welded, this is gonna be a bit more complex than if you can weld 'em where you drop 'em. In my case, the hydraulic lift and the welding were in the same place as the vehicle, but I know that's a luxury most people won't have. While my situation certainly made things easier to do, it doesn't preclude you doing this in the garage or driveway. 
Disassembly

   1. Remove all four wheels.
   2. Remove all four shocks.
   3. Remove the front and rear flexible brake lines.
   4. Remove brake line clips from the flexible brake line connectors.
   5. Plug the rigid brake lines where they're open under the vehicle.
   6. Disconnect and remove the emergency brake cable from each rear wheel.
   7. Remove the front and rear propellor shafts.
   8. Drain the front and rear differentials.
   9. Remove the stabilizer and stabilizer brackets.
  10. Remove the steering damper.
  11. Separate the pitman arm from the drag link.
  12. Remove the nut and washer from the steering box shaft.
  13. Using a puller, remove the Pitman arm from the steering box shaft.

Note: It is not necessary to disassemble the axles themselves. 

Pick an axle to start with and make sure it is well supported. Supports should be placed just inboard of the springs. Remove the spring seats from the bottom of each spring on the selected axle by removing the u-bolt nuts. An impact wrench comes in really handy here. Remove the lower shackle pins from the front of each front spring. It is not necessary to remove the upper shackle pins nor the spring bolts from the rear of each spring. Remove the lower shackle pins from the rear of each rear spring. It is not necessary to remove the upper shackle pins nor the spring bolts from the front of each spring. Remove the inner shackle plate from the shackle. Rock each spring down clear of the axle. Using two people, remove the axle from under the vehicle. Remove the rigid metal brake lines from the axle. 
Welding

Place the axle on a suitable surface, with the existing spring pads pointed exactly down and with the mounting surface level, and grind clean the area immediately opposite the existing spring saddle pads. Position the new spring saddle pads, making sure that they are square and the top surface is level. 

Weld the new pads in place by first tacking them in position, then welding a portion at a time to avoid damaging or warping the axle tube. See the drawing on the right. Take your time, work carefully, and allow the axle tube to cool between welds. 

While the front axle is cooling, cut or grind the old front lower shock mounts from the spring seats. Weld the new front lower shock mounts to each front spring seat, taking care to remember the orientation that the new seats will assume when reinstalled. (The new rear lower shock mounts will be installed by welding them in place after the rear axle has been remounted). 

When the axle tube has completely cooled, repaint ground areas, fresh welds, and bare metal on the axle tube and spring saddle pads. 

Other modifications 

Clamp each spring next to the spring locating pin, and remove the pin. Invert the pin, reinstall it and tighten securely. Remove the clamp on each spring. Swing the spring back to its normal position in the shackle. Reinstall the shackle pins, being sure to orient them with the nut towards the body centerline. Torque each shackle pin to 22.0-39.5 ft-lb. (3.0-5.5 kg-m). 
 

   1. Install the emergency brake cable drop bracket.
   2. Install the rear shock upper mounting bar.
   3. Install the new rear bump-stop brackets.
   4. Install the new rear bump stops.

Hammer over the perpendicular welded seam on the inside of the rear of the front fender, to prevent any rubbing with larger tires. Use a ball-peen hammer. If you work slowly and don't use heavy blows, the seam should bend over without popping the welds. 

While you've got the axles out on the ground, you may as well install that locker you've had your eye on. It's certainly easier to do it now than have to crawl under it later. I installed a Detroit EZ locker in the rear. 

If possible, get the ol' Mark I "flame wrench" out and put a pair of bends in your drag link to cause it to run parallel again. See Larry Harris' article on this. 
Reassembly

Once again, pick an axle with which to start and make sure it is well supported once it has been lifted into place just below the springs. Supports should be placed just inboard of the springs. 

Note: All torque specs are from the Suzuki manual for the 86-87 Model years (which also covers "early '88s"). Be sure to check the torque specs for your year Samurai, and follow manufacturer's recommendations for the reinstallation and proper torque for each fastener. If you break a fastener, be sure to replace it with only the same grade fastener! 

Double-check to make sure the axle is well supported. 

Replace the spring seats on the top of each spring on the selected axle. Have a helper lift one end of the axle into position while you place a u-bolt up from the bottom of the axle through the spring seat and thread a washer and nut well onto each end of the bolt. Lift the other end of the axle into position and fasten with another u-bolt, washers, and nuts 

Place the second u-bolt, washers and nuts on each end of the axle.Tighten each u-bolt ensuring that the locating pin on each spring enters the hole on the new spring saddle pad. Once properly located, tighten each u-bolt securely, drawing each end of the bolt down evenly. Torque to 43.5-57.5 ft-lb. (6.0-8.0 kg-m). 

For the rear axle, slip the new rear shocks onto the upper mounting posts and slip the new rear lower shock mounts into the eye of each shock. Now rotate the shocks into place to find the new mounting position of the new rear lower shock mounts. Once you've marked the position of the new lower mounts, grind the axle clean in that spot, slip the shocks back off, and weld the new mounts into place. Once the axle has cooled, paint the bare metal, shock mounts and fresh welds. 

Install the new dropped Pitman arm on the steering box shaft and reconnect the drag link. Replace the washer and nut on the steering box shaft and tighten securely. 

Reinstall the steering damper. The steering damper stay bolts (those that hold the formed sheet-metal piece to the Pitman arm) are torqued to 13.5-20.0 ft-lb. (1.8-2.8 kg-m). The steering damper nut (holds the bolt inserted thorough the stay and the damper eye) should be torqued to 25.5-39.5 ft-lb. (3.5-5.5 kg-m). The steering damper pin nut (fastens the opposite eye of the steering damper to the chassis-mounted pin) specs at 16.0-25.0 ft-lb. (2.2-3.5 kg-m). 

Reinstall the front and rear propellor shafts. If you disassembled the shaft sections at the slip joints, be sure to align the match marks on the shaft sections, and install new boots if necessary. When re-installing the shafts, the driveshaft spacers will go in place at the front end of the front shaft, and the rear end of the rear shaft. Use the new longer bolts provided for the drive-shafts to fasten the spacers in place between the driveshaft flange and the differential flange on both propellor shafts. Torque all driveshaft fasteners to 17.0-21.5 ft-lb. (2.3-3.0 kg-m). 

Refill the front and rear differentials using natural or synthetic SAE 80W-90, 75W-80 or 75W-90 hypoid gear oil (Suzuki "strongly recommends" the use of 75W-90 gear oil). Many of those who have expressed an opinion on this on the Suzuki mailing list have stated a definite preference for synthetics in the drive-train, citing better performance and quiter operation. Torque the filler plugs to 25.5-36.0 ft-lb. (3.5-5.0 kg-m). Drain plugs should be torqued to 29.0-50.5 ft-lb. (4.0-7.0 kg-m). 

Replace and reconnect the emergency brake cable to the new dropped mount and each rear wheel. Check to see if the cables will contact the new shock mounts or any other portion of the axle assembly. If necessary, place a spacer between the cable and the cable mounting points to move the cable out clear of the new mounts. 

Remove the plugs from the rigid brake lines where they're open under the vehicle.Replace the front and rear flexible brake lines with the new stainless steel braided brake lines, attaching them first to the rigid lines that are attached to the body and chassis of the vehicle, then to the brake cylinders at each wheel. Flare nuts are torqued to 10.5-13.0 ft-lb. (1.4-1.8 kg-m). The front brake line flexible hose bolts are tightened to 14.5-18.0 ft-lb. (2.0-2.5 kg-m). Replace the brake line clips for the flexible brake line connectors. Apply the Rancho shock decals, if desired, then install all four new shocks. Replace all four wheels. Lower the vehicle. 

Warning: BLEED THE BRAKE SYSTEM! The Samurai uses a dual diagonal system, where the opposite front and rear wheels each use the same "main line". For example, the left front and right rear brakes use the same line. Always bleed the wheel cylinder farthest from the master cylinder first (that is, do the rear wheels first). Be sure to keep the fluid reservoir on the master cylinder filled as you go along, and do a thorough job in bleeding the brakes. 

Make sure to check all fasteners after you've put some miles on. The way Thorley recommends for headers isn't a bad idea here either: 

   
bullet   Check and torque to specs after one day
bullet   Check and torque again after one week
bullet   Check and torque again after one month

I'd check once a month thereafter as well, or after every off-road trip, whichever is more frequent. 

3. 'Calmini' 5 inch suspension lift. Larry Harris 
Wanting to run bigger tires I installed the Shackle Reversal Kit from Calmini Products Manufacturing on my 1987 Samurai. Combine this kit with 3" springs and lightly valved shocks and you are ready to bolt on a set of your favorite 31" tires. This kit is completely bolt-on, there is no drilling or welding required*. The instructions provided are very straight-forward and easy to follow. This modification will give you a two-inch lift while maintaining stock castor angles. Calmini also has a 5 inch combination kit. 

Support the front frame and axle on jack stands. Cover all the nuts and bolts with a heavy coat of WD40 to penetrate the rust. Then break the old hardware loose and remove the stock front shackles. Install the new front brackets to the frame with the poly bushings and hardware. This kit has a brace that runs from one side of the frame to the other in the front. Put this in place, installing the nuts loosely. With the springs and shocks still bolted to the axle it will not be hard to move the springs into their new position on the front mounting points. 

Next comes the rear hanger for the front springs. The old bolts sometime stick (rust weld) in the rear hanger--this can be a trouble spot. If they do stick, be prepared to spend some time working the bolt with rust penetrator and a wrench. I have had to cut the head and thread off the bolt, pull the spring and burn out the stock rubber bushing to finally remove the bolt, a big flame wrench can be a handy thing. 

The front is done, moving to the rear support the truck and axles on jack stands. Loosen and remove the old stock shackles, replace them with new bushings and the longer shackles that are provided in the kit. They are very heavy duty, well manufactured and easy to install. Torque all the fasteners to factory specifications and enjoy your newly installed lift. 

4. GM alternator installation. Randy G Gary Munck   
The GM 100 Amp alternator that fits in a Samurai (that was sold by Loren) is a GM 7127 model. It doesn't need the idiot light connection or the field (exciter) connection. It's self exciting and only needs the one wire connection to the battery. 

You can get the additional 2-wire connector to connect up the idiot light and field wire. There are two possible color combinations of Samurai wire harness depending on the year. (Sorry still haven't noted what year is which.) The color codes of the wires for proper hook up are: 
 
GM Delco/Remy       Original Samurai Wire
2 wire clip       Type 1 colors/stripe    Type 2 colors/stripe
red       white/green    black/white
white       white/black    white/red

Due to higher output of the 100 Amp alternator, it is recommended that a 30 Amp fuse be put in place of the approx. 6" green wire (fusible link) at the positive battery post, which comes from the stock wiring harness (and is connected to the alternator). The alternator is capable of charging the battery at more than 30 Amps if you have too heavy a draw. I think a battery shouldn't be charged with more than 30 Amps, even on a quick charge. So the fusible link is there to protect the battery and the stock wiring harness. 

You don't have to install the 30 Amp fuse, but it's safer and easier to do it now. If you don't have a 30 Amp fuse, the fusible link at the battery will blow and you'll need to splice in a piece of wire to replace it. If this fuse (or fusible link) blows, the car will die completely. (A fusible link is a wire 2-4 sizes smaller than the wire it protects.) This wire is needed for the entire car to work, so carry some spare 30 Amp fuses or wire. 

The stock Samurai alternator puts out 45 Amps. A Sidekick puts out 55 Amps (I think. It may only be 35 & 45). I've installed the 100 Amp GM alt with just the one wire hook up and it works fine. Later on I taped off the original Samurai 10 gauge wire at the alt and ran a 6 gauge wire from the alt to the positive battery post. You don't have to do this, but the fusible link (or 30 Amp fuse) at the battery pos. will blow, if you have lots of accessories drawing more than 30 Amps. When this starts happening, it should be a warning signal to you, to install the 6 gauge or large wire. The fuse is blowing cause the stock 10 gauge wire in the stock harness can not carry the additional output demand of your accessories (now that you have an alt than can output more and keep up with the accessories), and it is protecting itself from a melt down...   

Loren's lower bracket fits like a charm. It's a Samurai bracket, with the original extensions cut off from the base, then new pieces to hold the GM alternator are welded to the stock base. So the old Samurai base bolts right in. You reuse the upper bracket that is currently there. Just loosen it so it moves (about ?") to align with the GM alternator upper bolt. 

The GM alternator installs very easily from below. You remove the two screws that hold on the plastic dust shield and slide it out of the way. Then loosen the two bolts on the passenger's side of the radiator support bracket, that hold the lower radiator hose's brace; as you'll need to push the lower hose (about 3/4") out of your way to slip in the bigger GM alternator 

11/96 update: I found a 94 Amp alt from a stock 83 Camaro, 2.5L engine, 94 Amp option. It is GM model 7294-3. (The "-3" means the 2-wire connection is in the 3 o'clock position. You have the choice of 3, 6, 9, & 12.) I also know there is a 110 Amp version, but can't seem to find the model number yet. It comes stock at 94 Amps and is available from any auto parts store. This makes it way cheaper to purchase than a juiced up specialty alternator. Mine cost $74 from Trak Auto. You can also buy the GM 2-wire connection for the alt at most parts stores too. So now all you need is to build or buy the bracket. 

Two notes that I almost forgot... 

On the original 7127 model from Loren, he told me to swap the Samurai alternator pulley onto the GM alternator, so it would spin faster... Later on when I replaced the alternator (with the Camaro one) I left the stock GM pulley on the alternator, since they seem to be the same size, but maybe I measured wrong. 

The Petroworks alternator kit uses a G.M. type CS130 with an output of 105 Amps. There are several configurations of the CS130, but most are basically the same internally with the exception that many of the cheap ones have inferior regulators and diode packs that are made off-shore. Be sure you get the Delco-Remy regulator. It is necessary to use a stronger than stock mounting bracket on the bottom because of the greater load. In addition, the charge wire must be of greater ampacity than the stock harness. 

The Petroworks kit includes the alternator, bracket, charge wire, belt and interface cable which plugs into the alternator and into the stock harness.   
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Re: Samurai Faq
« Reply #6 on: January 07, 2008, 06:10:28 PM »
A lot of Suzuki history, and specs on Izook here: http://www.izook.com/tech/faq/faq_history.htm
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